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Drivers using more PC than allowed and not going into violation

CBridegroom-1206
Original Poster

I've noticed a driver or 2 using PC beyond their limit and they are not going into violation? Our PC is set to 30 miles, but one driver in particular ran 100 miles PC yesterday. FIrst it shouldn't let him go beyond the 30 miles; he should go in violation. He is noting in his notes "Yard Move" which is a total lie. There have been other instances with different drivers. I have reached out to Support but I thought I'd see if anyone knows how this is occurring. I don't like it!

Thanks!

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EishiFUN
Geotabber

Interesting I missed this change to how the PC limit works. I guess this was changed sometime last year. I looked into it a little and it no longer 'kicks them out' as the FMCSA does not allow the ELD to enforce company policy like that. It will only tell the driver about the limit (that's the "!" log) but it can't change the drivers log anymore. The limit is effectively non existent in the USA due to the FMCSA stance - which does make sense because the ELD is only really supposed to do what's in the law and kicking them out of PC is not written in the law.

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EishiFUN
Geotabber

Hello @CBridegroom-1206​ ,

 

Thank you for asking your question in our community. I would be interested to see what support says about this. Maybe there is a bug or something since it should switch the into drive when they pass the limit. Yard move for 100 miles isn't very believable but I guess he had to try to find out he wasn't getting away with it that easy😆 .

 

Have a good one!

EIshi FUN

CBridegroom-1206
Original Poster

Apparently The 30-mile PC limit in MyGeotab is a configurable warning threshold, but it does not automatically generate HOS violations. This is because FMCSA regulations do not specify a specific mileage limit for Personal Conveyance - the 30-mile guideline is a best practice recommendation.

 

So a driver can run as long as he wants on PC apparently. My only option is to remove their PC so they can't use it at all.

EishiFUN
Geotabber

Interesting I missed this change to how the PC limit works. I guess this was changed sometime last year. I looked into it a little and it no longer 'kicks them out' as the FMCSA does not allow the ELD to enforce company policy like that. It will only tell the driver about the limit (that's the "!" log) but it can't change the drivers log anymore. The limit is effectively non existent in the USA due to the FMCSA stance - which does make sense because the ELD is only really supposed to do what's in the law and kicking them out of PC is not written in the law.

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